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Much younger me and Neal Adams – before he started charging for photo’s with him. Photo taken at 2005 HobbyStar Toronto Fan Expo.<\/p><\/div>\n

Originally published in October 2008. I asked Neal about his role in helping Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster with the mid 1970s settlement for Superman. Some bits of information conflicts with Jerry’s version of events. Neal tells his version with more storytelling flair. I was also able to ask him about the Academy of Comic Book Artists, which was a short lived organized gathering of creators.<\/p>\n

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A couple of years ago I did a sit down interview with Neal Adams. We had\u00a0a great hour long interview regarding his role in getting Siegel’s and\u00a0Shuster’s 1970’s settlement with Time Warner and a few other topics.\u00a0Sadly, I discovered my MP3 player was set up wrong and it didn’t record\u00a0the interview. While at San Diego I saw Neal and he agreed to do the\u00a0interview again. I also asked him questions regarding the Batman: The\u00a0Dark Knight movie that had just come out just prior to the convention.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0When did you first learn about Siegel’s and Shuster’s plight?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> When Jerry Siegel sent a letter to various newspapers and\u00a0organizations including the Academy of Comic Book Arts. I was the\u00a0president of the Academy of Comic Book Arts and got the letter and read it.\u00a0It was about 9 pages long and outlined everything that was happening\u00a0to Jerry and Joe.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I understand you took time off to be their representative to help them\u00a0out?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Well, obviously I could not be their legal representative, but it\u00a0seemed like their legal representative was not getting the job done.\u00a0Whatever they perceived the job to be or whatever Jerry and Joe\u00a0perceived the job to be because they wrote this letter. Or Jerry wrote\u00a0this letter. Clearly he was crying for help. And in crying for help he\u00a0was saying they were not being helped by their lawyers who had promised\u00a0they would intercede for them after a 15 year period where they were to\u00a0remain silent and to depend on the legal system to return their rights\u00a0to them. So the had stayed silent for those 15 years between the ages of\u00a045 to 60 years old and now their lawyers weren’t answering their phones,\u00a0according to them. They really had no answer to their question of how\u00a0they would get what was promised to them.<\/p>\n

So they called out for help. I realized that somebody had to do\u00a0something about it and thought about who that somebody might be. It\u00a0seemed to me that even if the newspapers responded, they would just\u00a0write stories and for certain DC or Marvel wasn’t going to do anything\u00a0about it. The people that owned DC weren’t going to do anything about\u00a0it, I mean they might, but that was pretty much a long shot.<\/p>\n

So really the question came down to who was going to help them? I felt I\u00a0was in a better position than most people because while I was dependent\u00a0on the companies for a certain portion of my income, I wasn’t fully\u00a0dependent. I had a reasonable understanding of the situation finally and\u00a0I could become involved. So I resolved myself the fact that this thing\u00a0would not end this way and it had to end in a favorable situation. And\u00a0that DC and their owners would be reluctant to deal with it that way so\u00a0I had to somehow represent Jerry and Joe publicly to make the issue\u00a0important. So I volunteered to do that. The boys had accepted my help,\u00a0not my legal help, but my vocal help in the media and anywhere else I\u00a0could get it. For the next 4 months I dedicated myself and my studio to\u00a0undoing this tragedy. At the end, we did.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I understand you got them on the Tom Snyder show?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Yeah I had to go on the show myself because Tom was concerned that\u00a0Jerry was too vehement and perhaps angry and Joe who was legally blind\u00a0was too mellow and wonderfully pleasant. That created a kind of\u00a0dichotomy between the two characters. He felt that I would be able to\u00a0modify that to present a straight up story. So I appeared on the show,\u00a0the boys appeared on the show and we did, I don’t know an hour or a half\u00a0hour, I guess it was a half hour and discussed this. The boys appeared\u00a0on a number of other shows. That sportscaster, Howard Cosell had a show\u00a0at the time and they appeared on there. What I did was convince Jerry to\u00a0come to New York. I hosted Joe to come in from Queens to be in these\u00a0various interviews. I managed to convince the news stations that perhaps\u00a0simply with petty cash they might convince the boys to stay in town long\u00a0enough to get some kind of resolution to this. They cooperated to the\u00a0extent that they could, they couldn’t pay them but they helped out as\u00a0much as they could, so they kept the story alive. We worked pretty hard\u00a0on that and like I said, we turned it around.<\/p>\n

It took the help of the cartoonist society, it took I guess some people\u00a0in the studio of good will, who helped out. In the end it turned out\u00a0favourable for everybody. I told the Warner’s people from the beginning\u00a0that it wasn’t necessary for this to become a controversy. They could\u00a0have paid the creators of Superman the same amount of money they pay a\u00a0good assistant or associate and they would be happy and there would be\u00a0no problem. It wasn’t necessary to prolong this torture and make a blot\u00a0on the face of the industry. And so in the end, perhaps because of\u00a0pressure, perhaps because reason prevailed, they saw the wisdom of being\u00a0reasonable and they agreed they would in fact not only pay the boys and\u00a0give them medical insurance and give them benefits that one has when\u00a0they work for a company. But they would also make them a part of their\u00a0presentation of Superman, because now with the boys being taken care of\u00a0they can introduce them at openings at where the movie was appearing and\u00a0have them as guests at conventions. So in the end their reluctance to\u00a0deal with the situation, when it turned around to being co-operative and\u00a0being positive turned into a benefit to Warner’s and DC Comics. As I\u00a0told them in the beginning that is what it would be.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I remember you said before that the Tom Snyder’s show has never been\u00a0rerun.<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Well, it’s a various odd thing. I don’t want to cast aspirations\u00a0on anybody but I talked to Tom Snyder subsequently and he told me that\u00a0they looked to run the show again and couldn’t find the tape. Which\u00a0is… kinda odd.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I know Jerry Robinson says he got involved after seeing them on one of\u00a0the shows, thinks it was the Tom Snyder show.<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> I think he got involved after I called him. (laughter)<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong> Really, you called him?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Jerry Robinson was the President of the Cartoonists Society. And I\u00a0decided I would enlist the aid of the Cartoonists Society and the\u00a0logical thing would be to call Jerry Robinson. So I did, and asked if we\u00a0could have some kind of meeting to see what the cartoonists society\u00a0could do to help this situation. We had taken it quite a far distance,\u00a0we had appeared on all these shows and had all these conversations and\u00a0interviews. We were sort of getting to the end of the rope because Jerry\u00a0had a heart condition and it really wasn’t good for him to stay away\u00a0from his job and to endanger his health by staying in New York and\u00a0staying under this tremendous pressure. Joe, on his part, because he was\u00a0legally blind, was constantly banging his head on taxi cab doors as I\u00a0was taking him from one place to another.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0Before when we talked you mentioned the Cartoonists Society got other\u00a0organizations together and wrote a letter?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Well, they proposed writing a letter. They had a meeting at what\u00a0was called the Allied Chemical Building at the time. It was very nice.\u00a0One big room with a big old table in it, a spotlight above the table,\u00a0lots of space and they were having their meeting in this building and at\u00a0the end of the meeting they proposed that they write a letter decrying\u00a0the situation. Then they asked me if that was fine, if that was a really\u00a0good idea. I kinda made a speech at that point. It was perhaps an angry\u00a0speech. And I implied I suppose, that people in this room that I was\u00a0speaking to, owed their living to Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. And that\u00a0the comic book business certainly wouldn’t be what it is without Jerry\u00a0and Joe. The concept of just writing a letter was not exactly what I\u00a0considered to be the right amount of energy. Perhaps I said it in a\u00a0little more angry way. Anyway, I got up and left. It was as I said, a\u00a0rather long speech, about 15 minutes. So I said you guys do what you\u00a0want to do, I’m leaving.<\/p>\n

So on my way out there was a fellow by the door, reasonably well\u00a0dressed, the place had a coat room. I was going to get my coat and there\u00a0was a guy standing there. An Irish guy, or he seemed Irish to me. He\u00a0stopped me and he said, “You know, that was a pretty good speech.” I\u00a0said “Well, thank you but I don’t think it’s going to do any good.” He\u00a0said “Well, it was a good speech anyways.” He says, “You know what you\u00a0ought to do?” I said “I’m trying to do everything I can do, what you do\u00a0think?” He Says, “Well you ought to hold a press conference.” I said,\u00a0“Well, that would probably be a good idea but I have no idea on how to\u00a0hold a press conference.” He said, “You know what building this is\u00a0here?” I said, “The Allied Chemical Building on Times Square” (but it’s\u00a0not the Allied Chemical Building anymore.) He said, “This is the\u00a0headquarters of the International Press Corp.” I said, “Really? That’s\u00a0very interesting.” And then he said, “Do you know who I am?” I said, “I\u00a0have no idea.” He said, “I’m the president of the International Press\u00a0Corps and if you want a press conference, you just say the word and you\u00a0got it.” Whoa! So I took him by the arm gently and took him over to the\u00a0Cartoonist Society and said Gentlemen this is the President of the\u00a0International Press Corps and he’s offering to have a press conference\u00a0for us. Within a reasonable period of time, in a few days we had a press\u00a0conference. And it was.. a press conference tends to attract a lot of\u00a0attention. And it did. Artists from around the country presented their\u00a0point of view, some in anger, some in sympathy, and it received a lot of\u00a0attention. At that point Warner’s seemed to feel that perhaps they be\u00a0willing to make a deal. Not that they were reluctant to make a deal\u00a0before but they seemed to be perhaps a little bit more anxious to make a\u00a0deal. So we managed to put together a deal for Jerry and Joe. Maybe not\u00a0the greatest deal in the world, but it certainly made it possible for\u00a0Jerry and Joe to live out the rest of their lives in reasonable comfort.\u00a0Which I considered to be my job.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0Do you remember what day that press conference happened?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> No, but you can probably look it up.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0You also told a story about putting more pressure on DC management and\u00a0you going to Florida for a convention.<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Well, when we finally got down to negotiations and in the lawyers\u00a0office there seemed to be problems on whether Jerry and Joe were going\u00a0to get their names back on the strip. I had been very quiet about it\u00a0because negotiations were going on between lawyers and business men. I\u00a0noted that people were overlooking certain things. The representative\u00a0for Warner’s asked me if there was a problem? I said, “No, but I think\u00a0Jerry and Joe’s name ought to go back on the strip.” They said, “No,\u00a0that’s not going to happen.” I said, “Well, I think it ought to.” So the\u00a0question came up if that was a deal breaker. I agreed that in fact, it\u00a0wasn’t a deal breaker. Jerry and Joe were too exhausted from this\u00a0process that they had gone through to stop it, so I wasn’t going to make\u00a0this a big deal.<\/p>\n

I had a plan. Because I realized this whole thing was going to go south,\u00a0the idea of putting their names back on. So I went back to my studio. I\u00a0had been invited to go to Florida for a convention. So I talked to Jerry\u00a0Robinson. I told Jerry, “Look Jerry, tomorrow you’re going to get some\u00a0phone calls from the newspapers and probably from Warner’s.” He said,\u00a0“Why are they going to call me?” I said “Well, because I’m going to be\u00a0gone.” He said “What do you mean gone?” I said “Well I’m going to\u00a0disappear.” He said “What do you mean?” I said, “Well I’m just going to\u00a0go to Florida for a convention but I’m not going to tell anybody where\u00a0I’m going. I’m just going to be… gone.” And I said, “And you’re going\u00a0to get some phone calls.” [Jerry says] “What about?” [Adams says] “Well,\u00a0you’ll see.”<\/p>\n

So what I did then was, the newspapers were calling me to find out what\u00a0was going on. I announced to them that the deal had been made, we’re\u00a0fine. They said, “You’re happy, everything is fine?” I said, “Well, just\u00a0about.” [Reporters] “What do you mean just about?” [Adams] “Well, In the\u00a0end DC Comics and Warner’s have not agreed to allow Jerry’s and Joe’s\u00a0names to go back on to the comic book character they created.” The\u00a0newspaper guys would say, “Well how do you feel about that?” I’d say,\u00a0“Well, how could I be happy about that? It’s their strip, they created it. It’s not going to cost the publishers anything to have their name on\u00a0it, it’s just recognition that they created it. I don’t understand what\u00a0the problem is.” They said, “Why are you letting it happen?” I said,\u00a0“Well Jerry and Joe are in ill health and I can’t make it an issue, but\u00a0I think it’s a damn shame.” After about 4 or 5 phone calls like that I\u00a0went home, got on a plane and flew down to Florida.<\/p>\n

So about mid-morning I’m with Jack Kirby with my family and his family\u00a0and we’re in the lobby of the hotel and somebody comes running over with\u00a0a phone. Said it was Jerry Robinson on the phone. So I got on the phone\u00a0with Jerry and said, “So Jerry, what’s happening?” He said, “Go sit\u00a0down.” [Adams] “Why?” He [Jerry] said, “Go sit down.” Fine, I go and sit\u00a0down in a chair. He says, “Let me tell you about my morning.” He says,\u00a0“Turns out all the reporters in town have been calling him and\u00a0apparently Warner’s asking what’s this idea about their names not being\u00a0on the strip.” I said, “Well I don’t know, I said the deal can go ahead.\u00a0I just mentioned it along the way.” Well, he had just got a call from\u00a0the Warner’s guy, who told him Neal Adams had disappeared from the face\u00a0of the earth. And he’s been calling all morning because reporters keep\u00a0calling and asking him about what’s going on about Jerry and Joe not\u00a0having their name on the strip? And it’s not going to cost anybody\u00a0anything? Why is it important? Why are they doing this? Why are they\u00a0making them sign this contract? So he’s [Jerry] talking to the guy\u00a0[Warner’s] saying “What’s going on? Where’s Neal?” [Jerry] “I don’t\u00a0know, I don’t know what to tell you, I don’t know where he is.”\u00a0[Warner’s] “Well, maybe you can help us. Maybe we can work something out\u00a0and help settle the newspaper guys.” Jerry said, “I think you’re talking\u00a0to the wrong guy. You’ve got to remember, I’m the President of the\u00a0Cartoonist Society. We have syndicated comic strip artists all of which\u00a0sign their name to their work. So I don’t think there is anybody I know\u00a0that wouldn’t be in sympathy with the idea of Jerry and Joe getting\u00a0their name on their strip again. I really think you’re talking to the\u00a0wrong person, I can’t help you there. If anything, we are totally\u00a0against this idea.” So the guy at Warner’s said, “Okay. Their names are\u00a0on the strip again. Are you happy now?” Jerry said, “Well, we’re almost\u00a0happy.” [Warner’s] “What do you mean, almost happy?” He [Jerry] said\u00a0“You know, the guys have been through a lot. Wouldn’t it be nice, before\u00a0they started receiving their money they got a little bonus to pay for\u00a0their expenses, for the trouble they’ve been through the last several\u00a0months.” [Warner’s] “What number were you thinking of Jerry?” Jerry\u00a0named a number. The guy at Warner’s said “Fine. Anything else?” [Jerry]\u00a0“No, I think that about covers it.” So Jerry managed to put the icing on\u00a0the cake. Me, I was in Florida having breakfast with Jack Kirby and got to tell him the whole story.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I know that you were involved with the Academy of Comic Book Artists.\u00a0How did that start?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> I think there was a lot of rumbling going on in the field. There\u00a0was union talk and other talk and the truth is, it was Jim Warren who\u00a0came up with the idea. He thought there ought to be a group, an academy.\u00a0Maybe he did it to stop the complaints going on, maybe it did it to show\u00a0he was a good guy, I don’t know why. So it was really Jim Warren who\u00a0started the whole idea and everybody agreed. Unfortunately or\u00a0fortunately the publisher sorta tried to make themselves a part of it.\u00a0In fact Stan Lee was the first President involved. Which seemed a little\u00a0strange to everybody. It put a lot of pressure everybody. But Stan\u00a0insisted he was a freelancer like everybody else. Nobody quite agreed\u00a0with that, but after all he was in charge of hiring and firing 50% of\u00a0the people in the business so one could hardly argue with Stan Lee.\u00a0After he was no longer president, Dick Giordano became President and I\u00a0was the 3rd President. All through that time we got things going. I did\u00a0an awful lot of the work because I’m kinda a work horse. And I can’t say\u00a0that Stan did anything. Stan was a figurehead, and a good figurehead in\u00a0my opinion. The work, as usual, was rested on me.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0What were the things that was accomplished through the organization?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> We didn’t really accomplish much with the organization. The things\u00a0we did accomplish were intangibles tangibles. First of all we put a\u00a0shock and a scare through all the publishers. Because when people\u00a0started organizing and getting together, the nature of doing that does\u00a0scare the management. So we gained a certain amount of respect with the\u00a0publishers. In fact there was a dispute between Marvel and DC Comics and\u00a0they called upon us to settle it, and we did. We called a meeting and\u00a0settled the dispute. I don’t actually remember what the dispute was at\u00a0the moment, but that’s kind of strange if you can imagine, a freelance\u00a0organization being in a position of settling a dispute. Another thing we\u00a0did was during our first meeting, one of things I did was I went around\u00a0and told everybody what my page rate was. Nobody wanted to talk about\u00a0what their page rate was, but once they discovered what my page rate was\u00a0they were able to compare page rates, they then made demands on their\u00a0editors and publishers that they should be paid at least as much as Neal\u00a0Adams. So when you form an organization like that you can’t easily make\u00a0a super point about a solid thing like we went on strike and we got\u00a0this. We couldn’t go on strike. But there were things that happened\u00a0because people were listening to us. We were making changes within the\u00a0group. Everybody was meeting one another that hadn’t met before. Jack Kirby had never met Joe Sinnott. So there’s these intangibles that you\u00a0can’t easily codify but in fact were very, very important.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0DC contracts. I know DC is has been reprinting a bunch of your work.<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> What do you want to know?<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0I know when DC published Deadman reprints with your name on it…<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> Well, what happened was DC was nice enough to pay me an additional\u00a0royalty for using my names on the books. I say nice enough. Well, yeah,\u00a0nice enough to capitulate at the end of a series of discussions. In\u00a0which I never got angry. But they were still nice enough to work with me. And I think that’s a new attitude with DC comics. I think DC has\u00a0gotten a lot more human, a lot better at doing business with\u00a0individuals. And as a result they are now going to a project I call,\u00a0printing all the rest of my crap. Which they call, DC Classics. So all\u00a0the other stuff that didn’t appear in either Deadman, Green Lantern and\u00a0Batman is going to appear in these three volumes. It’s pretty nice.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0Before you talked about lawyers and moral rights versus legal rights.<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:<\/strong> I don’t think lawyers know very much about moral rights so I guess\u00a0it’s not exactly a topic that I strenuously get involved in discussing.\u00a0Lawyers seem to be, for whatever reason, they don’t seem to have that\u00a0switch in their psyche that says even though this may be legal, it’s not\u00a0right, and I ought to back away from this because it’s wrong. Right and\u00a0wrong seem to be gray in the law. So a lawyer will more likely depend on\u00a0the law rather than what’s right. I don’t think this is true, always\u00a0with all lawyers, but it is a standard of the business of lawyering. To\u00a0allow the bending of morality, their judgment of right and wrong to be\u00a0satisfied by if it’s okay in the law. You see it on television all the\u00a0time. You see television shows about legal firms who think it’s okay for\u00a0somebody to get an award for, and use the word award as if it was some\u00a0kind of prize, of an amount of money that is unrealistically high\u00a0compared to the offense. So that the law firm may receive such a large\u00a0percentage of that. So it’s not up to me to make these kinds of\u00a0judgments that, when you watch these television shows. If the goal\u00a0becomes to make lawyers rich and that’s the way it’s reflected on\u00a0television shows, live in fancy apartments and drive fancy cars and to\u00a0smoke cigars on their balconies, if that’s the goal of the legal\u00a0business, that’s hard to believe it is a good system. It’s a very, very\u00a0bad system. Making lawyers rich and destroying the lives of companies\u00a0and individuals in unfair proportion makes no sense. I don’t know why.\u00a0It’s sort of like when I was a kid they made the lottery unlawful and\u00a0people were arrested and put in jail and then they made it legal, then\u00a0had the state run it, and it paid for the educational system, especially\u00a0in New York, and therefore it became okay. So why were all those people\u00a0thrown in jail? I don’t know how that makes sense. I don’t know how\u00a0people who spend their families’ money on the lottery are justified in\u00a0participating in gambling on a regular basis. I just find it very odd\u00a0that morality slides around so much under a system that’s essentially\u00a0run by lawyers. It doesn’t make any sense to me.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0What are you doing with Continuity Studios lately?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:\u00a0<\/strong>We’re doing a lot of work on the Internet. We’re doing CGI\u00a0animation. New forms of what we call Animatics for the Internet that’s\u00a0kind of an animation. We’re really busy producing what’s called content\u00a0for the Internet. I wish we could put our signature on it all the time\u00a0so when you are on the Internet and you see an animation of a\u00a0refrigerator or interactive game play for selling or involving you in a\u00a0new company’s product that we could say, “Hey! That’s ours.” But you\u00a0really can’t at this point do that. We’re all over the place. Very few\u00a0things are like comic books where you do your thing, sign your name and\u00a0everybody knows you did it. Most everything else is kind of a group effort.<\/p>\n

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Jamie:<\/strong>\u00a0Last question here. Did you see the new Batman movie and what did you\u00a0think?<\/p>\n

Neal Adams:\u00a0<\/strong>I did and I loved it. It is based on to a lesser degree than I\u00a0might appreciate on, “The Joker’s Five-Way Revenge” [Originally\u00a0published in Batman #251]. Or at least that’s what the author of the\u00a0story says. So it would be really hard for me not to like it. Also I\u00a0believe in stories as stories and not just vehicles for superheroes to\u00a0knock down buildings, or to dress up in funny costumes. So I would have\u00a0to say this is my kind of Batman, probably, MY Batman.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Originally published in October 2008. I asked Neal about his role in helping Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster with the mid 1970s settlement for Superman. Some bits of information conflicts with Jerry’s version of events. Neal tells his version with more storytelling flair. I was also able to ask him about the Academy of Comic Book Artists, which was a […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[101,13,130,36,34,32,100,17],"tags":[152,156,154,137,153,148,151,155],"class_list":["post-138","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-collectortimes","category-comics","category-creator-rights","category-creators","category-dc","category-history","category-interview","category-movies","tag-academy-of-comic-book-artists","tag-international-press-corps","tag-jack-kirby","tag-jerry-robinson","tag-jim-warren","tag-national-cartoonists-society","tag-neal-adams","tag-tom-snyder"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=138"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":141,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138\/revisions\/141"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jamiecoville.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}